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Covering the president and americans are addicted to reading and listening and reading his tweets and hearing about him, even when they hate him. love him or hate him, it is addicting. how do you get media attention facing the president 101, given his outside advantage of being able to play the game. >> jon: right; right. he is good at playing the game. we will never forget the number of times the cable network would have camera on empty podium and just waiting for trump to speak. it would be an hour before he would come out and speak. he knows how to control the media. now the bully pulpit of...

Show, you sat down with ralph reed, the president of the faith and freedom coalition. watch there. >> when you have people like michael avenatti and brian fallin who is a former clinton operative who is running one of the organizations as opposed to kavanaugh's confirmation saying that the playbook is topping kill his nomination and then to win the midterms in order to deny president trump an additional supreme court pick, it looks like a political campaign. >> so revenge? does this seem like coordinated messaging here? >> well, you know, i talked to both -- i talked to reed and fallon. they'v...

Over the last couple hours or so? >> well, i think he feels like the republicans are in a very solid position as it relates to talking to the public about what they're doing, tonight the vote count will not lie, it will be most republicans voting to keep the government open, and most democrats voting to shut the government down. i see it simply, there are two cakes in the oven here, one cake is ready to eat. one cake is not set up yet, that's the daca bill. i agree with everything brian said about the polling and the support, but the legislative language is not yet ready, it will be ready, and...

A crisis to meet with these dreamers, you heard secretary nilsson admit she's never met a dreamer, i would think they'd have their minds open, if they met with one of these people impacted by the threats donald trump is making. >> scott, you want to respont to that? >> i share brian's passion on fixing the issue on daca. >> they deserve legal certainty. virtually every republican i know agrees with that, i don't think there's broad consensus in the congress and the white house right now over what that legislative package is going to look like. what we do have consensus on is the chip program, ...

Something to come with, so the government doesn't shut down? >> you first, brian. >> i don't know, you heard phil report that mcconnell is cooking up another cynical ploy of trying to expose democratic senators from trump won states to as many show boats over the next 90 minutes as possible. maybe you'll see something where he offers a three-week continuing resolution or two-week continuing resolution. let me respond to two things scott said before you went to phil. he said democrats should want to extend the children's health insurance program, that's right, we obviously do, the children's he...