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The children as they've been described to us these teenagers, kids who just got out of school who are purging, are throwing brick bats at them and they backed up the police for a long time. then the police did some pepper spray and tear gassing, we believe. the kids we watched it happen went back rearmed with more brick bats and bottles and backed them down again. so whatever the police did, it was not enough in the early going and, you know this is these people's fault but the police weren't ready and let's just hope that all of them survive this. >> shep julie asked about the governor. i hav...

To protect themselves from stones and rocks which are 100% being thrown at them. and some of them do not. the guys in the white shirts always the guys in charge. this one in the white shirt does not have anything so he is backing up hip those. we have watched the police try to make a move on the juveniles but look at the street down here. it's littered with these brick bats and the kids are fully moving on police and police are backing down. so what do you do now? do you bring out water cannons pepper spray to dispercent the crowd? if a police officers is hit and down what do you do with more ...

Debris some cases brick bats, bottles, but they've been aggressive about it, and you can see these police officers are picking some of -- those aren't police officers. those are the kids. and -- no, these are police officers now, who are picking things up and throwing them become at the juveniles. some of these -- you see this officer has a shield. some of them do. but if you look to the back, the ones who are back farther they don't have shields. so these cops have a mask, children are throwing brick bats at them, and the police are apparently, from all we have seen retaliating with the rocks...

Problems that maybe he can't solve. they are happy to throw brick bats at him and without putting anything down about what they want to do. they saw his approval ratings drop a little bit last summer out of the syria business. i think we are seeing the days ahead. a lot of people not calling for russian troops to the ukraine but calling the president weak, ineffective, feckless without saying what should be done in these foreign policy dilemmas. >> part of this is what we have been seeing for six years which is the attempt by the mccain types in the party to tag the president every time someth...

Reaction from people who are going to react. we are just getting our information from an incredibly wide variety of sources -- putting aside burma. it is a fantastic time to be in reporting even if there is a lot of pushback. >> we may laugh at the scandinavian countries, but perhaps they have fewer secrets to hide. but it is a different situation over there. i wonder what you make of the contention that what we are doing right now in the court system is effectively criminalizing journalism? >> i think it is. i think that jefferson said, you can't have a government without newspapers or a gove...