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Atmosphere. and when it does this, it actually destroys people's lungs and it makes it extremely difficult for anybody to survive an attack like that. this is particularly dangerous for enclosed spaces. now if we go to kharkiv itself, we see some of the destruction that we have here. this is -- these atactics that are designed very specifically to effect the civilian population. so this is a war against civilians. it is not a war against the military and these are pictures that prove that very fact. >> go ahead, finish your thought. >> yes. basically, the idea here with the convey that we have...

Increase in indirect fires and aviation, when we started this discussion, we were talking about kharkiv. this was one of the areas that you had that was very bombed out. getting hit with indirect fire. lots of aviation pouring in now. you're seeing lots of bombing runs, but they are terrible, so far, the russians in terms of suppression of enemy air defense and by that i mean the ukrainian surface to air missiles, their air defense has been really impressive and in some places, you're even seeing the ukrainians not far from the russian border taking over parts or at least contesting parts here...

Loss of life? >> the u.n. officials that would normally go on the ground and verify these figures for themselves by, you know, literally looking at hospital wards, they can't get to a lot of the contested areas right now. i heard from a u.n. official who said, look, we're puttingfigure our strict methods, and we are constantly updating them. the ukrainian officials are in the middle of the fight. they're where the people are dying. >> let's talk about where the fight is right now, colonel. the russian assault expands all across the map. one place it appears slow going on the ground at least is...

Are fighting in the open, but when we go into the cities that's when it becomes easy. i am struck by some pictures i have seen of entire streets just filled with gutted russian tanks and russian equipment that went into an ambush and a siege. so ukrainians doing very well in pushing back, but this truly is -- if you look at the map, this truly is -- this is a story of two wars. one in the northern part where the russians are bogged down and doing terribly, and one in the southern part of the country where the russians seem to be far better and are expanding and consolidating, making gains ever...

Airstrikes to the west, that's that military base that was struck with the missile. lots of casualties. this was always probably going to happen. the russians have to cut off the supply lines coming into ukraine or they will never, ever be able to take the ukrainian military. there's some doubt whether they can do that. here in the north, this is kyiv, just watching this, this is the convoy from last week. they're trying to splinter out here to the west. you see them in and around irpin. that's where richard engel was a lot of last week. they can't get really a bridge head. there's a water obs...