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They wanted to see our maps. and they had some questions about paya and who was there and what was there. they decided that they were going into panama for themselves, but they needed a guide to retrace our steps. >> what did he say? >> he says they want to take victor with them to panama. >> there was a brief argument. >> tell them there is no reason to take him to panama. >> we were pretty emphatic about it. but victor didn't really say much of anything on his behalf. i think at that point he realized that things were beyond his control. [ speaking spanish ] >> i mean, we really pleaded with...

They wanted to see our maps. and they had some questions about paya and who was there and what was there. they decided that they were going into panama for themselves, but they needed a guide to retrace our steps. >> what did he say? >> he says they want to take victor with them to panama. >> there was a brief argument. >> tell them there is no reason to take him to panama. >> we were pretty emphatic about it. but victor didn't really say much of anything on his behalf. i think at that point he realized that things were beyond his control. [ speaking spanish ] >> i mean, we really pleaded with...

They wanted to see our maps. and they had some questions about paya and who was there and what was there. they decided that they were going into panama for themselves, but they needed a guide to retrace our steps. >> what did he say? >> he says they want to take victor with them to panama. >> there was a brief argument. >> tell them there is no reason to take him to panama. >> we were pretty emphatic about it. but victor didn't really say much of anything on his behalf. i think at that point he realized that things were beyond his control. [ speaking spanish ] >> i mean, we really pleaded with...

They wanted to see our maps. and they had some questions about paya and who was there and what was there. they decided that they were going into panama for themselves, but they needed a guide to retrace our steps. [ speaking spanish ] >> what did he say? >> he says they want to take victor with them to panama. >> there was a brief argument. >> tell them there is no reason to take him to panama. >> we were pretty emphatic about it. but victor didn't really say much of anything on his behalf. i think at that point he realized that things were beyond his control. [ speaking spanish ] >> i mean, w...

They wanted to see our maps. and they had some questions about paya and who was there and what was there. they decided that they were going into panama for themselves, but they needed a guide to retrace our steps. >> what did he say? >> he says they want to take victor with them to panama. >> there was a brief argument. >> tell them there is no reason to take him to panama. >> we were pretty emphatic about it. but victor didn't really say much of anything on his behalf. i think at that point he realized that things were beyond his control. [ speaking spanish ] >> i mean, we really pleaded with...