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Grievan grievance, thewill you work wit me? >> so testing or feeding right wing platforms with the power of the presidency. that's fantastic. that's not safe. i'm just telling you. just because you can figure it out doesn't mean it's okay. it's actually chilling. it's chilling. does anyone disagree? >> i'm going to david ignatius. it's not right wing. this is not about right wing. this is about tribalism, and grievance. he feeds the grievance and the tribalism and it gives him the space to work with democrats on daca, and bright bart and coulter, and hannity, and bannon will never be able to c...

Analogy. this is darth vader versus the resistance. i hate to say it this way but this is how these individuals think. the and it's very dangerous for the american democracy. >> what is your take on this? do you think democrats consider his departure a victory? >> well, look, i agree with robert that him not being in the white house and not being the at forefront. west wing is a good thing for the american people. it's almost as bad having him at bright bart. in is our united states government. steve bannon and gorka were seen dwr yor staff members. this is no way we should be running our gove...

How does -- i mean, apparently this guy has done this before, whoever this trick zer stster i done this before to the trump white house. what does that mean this guy wants to do steve bannon's dirty work, why would he put that in an e-mail? anybody? >> clearly what he was doing, he was trying to provoke answers out of them to indicate breitbart has an agenda, they're trying to push certain stories that will be derogatory toward one person and -- >> how wor are rried should the president be? >> this guy has done this before. look, the mt. hpresident has kn all along steve bannon is loyal to the...

Cause a major rift between bright bart and trump. bright bart came from the trump site very very positive for trump during the election cycle and bannon was the head of that. then moved to the trump campaign. now i think bannon's will be go back to breitbart, platform for the alt right as he declared it. he's going to use that power to smash the president, what he thinks the president is wrong. i think he's going to do it in order to prop himself up, too. i don't think it's solely about principle. far from it. lot of it will be about steve trying to gain his own momentum on a movement he belie...

Maybe you can infer. this one is about house speaker paul ryan who bannon feared would try to take the nomination from trump and green writes that bannon used his role as head of bright bart news and wage a foul-mouthed assault on him calling him a limp dm-fer who was born at a petri dish at the heritage foundation. what do you think of that? >> the limp and then the m-f thing are contradictory. i don't think you can be both. >> thank you, matt. it's late night. this rings true to me. we know that -- >> this is bannon. >> it sounds like steve bannon. >> he doesn't like paul ryan. and the thing...