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Guest with me today via satellite downlink. >> i don't think steve jobs has ever experienced you know before or after that just people going boo, no. microsoft represented everything that these hard-core apple fans hated. >> if we want to move forward, and see apple healthy and prospering again, we have to let go of a few things here. we have to let go of this notion for apple to win, microsoft has to lose. okay? >> there was an alliance now between these two former archrivals and microsoft was going to invest $150 million in apple. but more important from bill gates' point of view was that ap...

>> i don't think steve jobs has ever experienced you know before or after that just people going boo, no. microsoft represented everything that these hard-core apple fans hated. >> if we want to move forward, it's the apple healthy and prospering again, we have to let go of a few things here. we have to let go of this notion for apple to win, microsoft has to lose. okay? >> there was an alliance now between these twos former arch rivals and microsoft was going to invest $150 million in apple. but more important from bill gates' point of view was that apple would include microsoft's browser in ...

Satellite downlink. >> i don't think steve jobs has ever experienced you know before or after that just people going boo, no. microsoft represented everything that these hard-core apple fans hated. >> if we want to move forward, it's the apple healthy and prospering again, we have to let go of a few things here. we have to let go of this notion for and to win, microsoft has to lose. okay? >> there was an alliance now between these twos former arch rivals and microsoft was going to invest $150 million in apple. but more important from bill gates' point of view was that apple would include micro...

That people just going, boo, no. >> microsoft represented everything that these hard core apple fans hated. >> if we want to move forward, apple healthy and prospering again, we have to let go of a few things here. we have to let go of the notion that for ap toll win, microsoft has to lose. >> there was an alliance now between these two former arch rivals. and microsoft was going to invest $150 million in apple, but more important from bill gates, apple would include microsoft's browser in all macintoshs. that was the last piece. he had domination of the browser world. >> internet explorer mak...

Ever experienced before or after that people just going, boo, no. >> microsoft represented everything that these hard core apple fans hated. >> if we want to move forward, apple healthy and prospering again, we have to let go of a few things here. we have to let go of the notion that for apple to win, microsoft has to lose. >> there was an alliance now between these two former arch rivals. and microsoft was going to invest $150 million in apple, but more important from bill gates, apple would include microsoft's browser in all macintoshs. that was the last piece. he had domination of the brows...