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Ideology there? >> no. once again, like i said previously, i see a lot of people trying to articulate everyone when they don't really know the person. i can say based on my personal experience and what i've witnessed, that i don't see any, should i say, ill will between mr. bannon and the president. i think everyone has such a deep passion with a desire to help the american people. sometimes passions ooze stronger than others. it's not conducive for the team at the present time, so therefore, we make transitions. people move in, people move out. but i don't see that based on my personal experi...

Unfortunately some of us have short memories. it's not uncommon for staff to make transitions in those first several months because granted now, in terms of coming from a private sector to working in the public sector, it's not easy. but i look at it as a season, i look at it as a 4x100 relay where you run the baton and pass it to the next person, just like we did through the campaign, et cetera. so i'm very optimistic. mr. bannon and the president are still on great terms, just like anyone else that has left the administration. they still want to serve the people. because, alex, at the end of...