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51 votes. i talked to senators, they don't want congressman telling them how to run chamber. >> that's fine, chris. what we told the american people, we told them we were going to repeal obamacare and replace it with something that's going to bring down cost of insurance. we didn't tell the american people we were going to repeal obamacare but keep some of the taxes in there. we didn't tell the american people we were going to repeal obamacare and extend it. we didn't tell them we were going to repeal obamacare and get rid of mandate and bring back the 30% penalty that's in the bill. we didn't...

>> two. >> two. a clean bill is very unlikely to get through the senate. everyone knows that. chris: michael. >> a very unfair way to frame the issue. you have one chance on 51-vote republican threshold and what conservatives are saying, take the architecture of obamacare and do the rest when you need to get democrats. what they're proposing going through is the exact opposite. you do the rest now and magically get 60 votes, eight democrats, now that you passed your bill that keeps the architecture in place we are going to join you to tear down the architecture. >> trump didn't run on doing th...

Mandated coverage in there that drive up the costs, those have to be dealt with if we are ultimately going to bring down the costs for working-class families and if we put that many the bill, may have parliamentary ruling on it but i think we can win that as well and use that strategy to actually repeal and replace it with something that's going to be helpful. >> congressman, here is the problem, if you blow up senate rules and you basically say you can pass almost anything under reconciliation, then you're ending a filibuster, a majority can do anything they want. back in 2009 there was a sim...

Was bringing had not been spirit, capitol hill, congressional leadership with binary choice, either take it or leave it approach. the fundamental problems that this bill keeps architecture of obamacare in place. many of those regulations stay in place. because regulations drive costs people in driving buying health insurance, this bill gets rid of individual mandate and replaces individuals on insurers to try to have continuous coverage. because you have driven up the cost of healthcare insurance and you're requiring people to buy overexpensive plans. this bill keeps the architecture of obamac...

He's insisting that they cross state lines. >> do you think ending expansion of medicaid next year rat -- than slowout in 2020, do you think that improves the bill? >> we are trying to give the governors to control what is going on in the state. many of the governs are done a very good with healthcare in their states and we are trying to work with the governors to give them more control of what they're doing in their states. >> how important is this bill to the president? how hard will he fight for it? is he willing to go out to districts and call out republicans by name who oppose it and does...