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Do and then we're going to fight and make that case to the american people. >> what about budget caps under sequestration? are you willing to lift the caps so you would have spending on both defense and domestic spending? >> personally, i want to cut spending. personally, i just don't believe that we can continue to add to the deficit. so i actually, personally, like the budget cap. i do believe we need more money for the military. we need more money for the v.a. we need to help those taking care of us and i want to fight cancer. it's killing 1500 people a day. again, it's not my personal agen...

Administration's policy. i said look i have gripes too. but congress hasn't really earned the right to criticize because two things we're supposed to do. we're supposed to authorize war. today is the 11th month of the war, $3 billion, 3500 people over there and we haven't even had a floor debate about authorizing it and we're supposed to provide the budgetary support for the dod and other priorities. we're not providing a budget that meaningfully funds not only the operation against isis but the dod because we're relying on gimmicks whether it's a continuing resolution or in the new budget tha...

And that's all i can call them. these sobs didn't even have the decency to table the vote. >> look the policy is good or it's bad. so if i'm a republican, i say, look, we have these budget caps, i don't think amtrak should be getting this money. and this horrible thing that happened doesn't change how i'm going to vote. >> two things. number one, the budget caps are a baloney excuse. they break the budget caps of defense. just blew them away. that's b-s. number two, the policy is terrible. their policy is terrible. this country used to have the world's best infra structure, the world economic ...

These sobs didn't even have the decency to table the vote. >> the policy is good or it's bad? so if i'm a republican, i say, look, we have these budget caps, i don't think amtrak should be getting this money. and this horrible thing that happened doesn't change how i'm going to vote. >> the budget caps are a bologna excuse. they just blew them away. that's bs. number two, the policy is terrible. their policy is terrible. this country used to have the world's best infra structure, the world economic forum rated us number one. we're now 12 behind singapore, behind iceland. it's unbelievable. our...

Transparent and fiscally responsible way. >> well, that makes sense, given the new congress on its way in next six weeks. what was most troublesome about the spending bill and the reason that you could and sign -- you couldn't vote yes? >> well, one, the amount. it was $1.1 trillion. there was a lot of spending in there that was beyond the budget caps, that was characterized as emergency spending. but really, wasn't. then you had a lot of special interest provisions that benefited particular constituencies that have power in washington and again, if you had an open process i think that would h...