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Package to put the nation's fiscal house in order. what do you think the odds are of that happening at this point? >> i don't think we have a choice. i mean, really, we've got an economy that's still ailing. too many people out of work. our focus is to try and jump start this economy. and what we continue to hear when you talk to small and large businesses is, if you want to fix the economy, fix the deficit. if you want to provide the kind of environment where there's going to be growth, make long-term economic growth, make sure you get your fiscal house in order. we're taking the small steps ...

If something doesn't happen today, then the assumption is it's not going to happen. >> my goal here is to actually solve the problem. not to get a good headline on the first day. >> so the president actually got some tough questions yesterday. hey, mr. president, what's the deal? why didn't you listen to your debt commission? >> it's a very curious complaint to be complaining the press is impatient when he had several months to put together a budget. he had the message sent to him by the american people in the midterm elections, a budget document is not just a budget, it's a policy statement a...

Only about $250 billion out of a xhul cumulative deficit, which by that time will be in the neighborhood of $8 or $9 trillion. >> bottom line, belle, what rating or number would you assign them for honesty in budget proposals? >> well, i think i would give them reasonable marks there. i haven't had a chance to actually look at the budget document, but i think the problem here is mainly not honesty but political will. and i think when republicans are not willing to even put taxes on the table and when many democrats are opposed to reigning in entitlement spending on social security and medicare...

Proposal is a statement of values. but republicans say it's a nonstarting for them and especially when it comes to the price tag you mentioned, to fund a number of democratic priorities. it's a massive budget document. there are so many things you can look at. when you break it down, you can see significant more spending in places like the commerce and education and transportation department. this as the white house continues to double down on infrastructure as well as boosting government spending programs, including social programs. >> it's just the president's corps economic plan. it will in...

I think we can put it on screen. thank you. it's titled, you can see, department of homeland security fiscal year 2018, transfer and reprograming notifications. in other words, this is the whole list of money that homeland security took from one agency and moved to another. and the practice of transferring monies between agency, that is not unusual in itself, but it is unusual to see in one of these documents a whole column full of money being deleted from the fema budget less than a year after hurricane maria on the cusp of this year's hurricane season. apparently to bolster the government's ...