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Brave and they are saying he's done this incredibly courageous thing by putting these cuts out there, but so much is focused on what a nice guy he seems like he. is he's not even running for anything. he's their budget guy. i haven't really been able to understand why -- why the media is so man crushed on him. >> yeah, and that is the word for it. i guess it's the dreamy eyes. i don't know either, but this is, again, an old republican trick. we saw it with ronald reagan. smile, be genial, act like you're somebody you'd like to have dinner with or a beer with and then do horrible things to peop...

But it has been really, really strange and personal. you're right there calling him brave and they are saying he's done this incredibly courageous thing by putting these cuts out there, but so much is focused on what a nice guy he seems like he. is he's not even running for anything. he's their budget guy. i haven't really been able to understand why -- why the media is so man crushed on him. >> yeah, and that is the word for it. i guess it's the dreamy eyes. i don't know either, but this is, again, an old republican trick. we saw it with ronald reagan. smile, be genial, act like you're somebo...

Strange and personal. you're right there calling him brave and they are saying he's done this incredibly courageous thing by putting these cuts out there, but so much is focused on what a nice guy he seems like he. is he's not even running for anything. he's their budget guy. i haven't really been able to understand why -- why the media is so man crushed on him. >> yeah, and that is the word for it. i guess it's the dreamy eyes. i don't know either, but this is, again, an old republican trick. we saw it with ronald reagan. smile, be genial, act like you're somebody you'd like to have dinner wi...

Was? he. >> i don't know a whole lot about him. >> he was against mark newman, aformer congressman. he's popular with the far right of the party, social conservatives and economic conservatives. he's very stable, solid, approachable. he's not an impeerist guy at all. he's so tough. people underestimate him because of his demeanor. he's a tough guy. >> mark newman came with us in '94 and he was the budget guy. he was the guy we all turned to. he knew all the numbers. he was a pretty soft spoken guy, too. he stared down then bob livingston, chairman of the appropriations, newt gingrich. he fough...

Politics. but on the house side, they fall off the wagon a lot. they have a really hard time adhering to this. you may recall last year when president obama's budget came out. instead of just taking pot shots at president obama's budget, which is what even the cheapest political consultant in the world will tell you you're supposed to do when you're in the opposition, house republicans for some reason at that time decided to introduce their own alternative budget. but they hedged their bets. perhaps sensing they were doing something wrong. they refused to put any numbers in their budget. a def...