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Each other. that's not what's happening in wisconsin. firefighters were marching with, fighting with, standing on the front line with and we are staying united with all the workers in wisconsin. this is a cheap trick by walker trying to eliminate the ability of those workers to be represented. >> and chris -- >> let's let the governor speak. here's governor scott making a point. here he is today. governor walker saying what the fight's about. >> if i have to choose between the demands of a few union leaders or staying with the hard working taxpayers of wisconsin, i'm going to stand with the ta...

>> don't have to call them names. >> they took a powder to illinois rather than vote and do their job. >> i don't know you spoke giddish. union busting. just to reiterate that. i think thed media is reportingt as a budget issue. it's a union busting issue. >> it's not. >> the states are broke republicans when they were elected to office, taking away their collective far banning rights. ant eventually. i didn't interrupt you. >> bill: it is party politics. if you go back and look at the tape of the broadcast last night. we clearly laid out that the give backs were agreed upon by the union and n...

>> don't have to call them names. >> they took a powder to illinois rather than vote and do their job. >> i don't know you spoke giddish. union busting. just to reiterate that. i think thed media is reportingt as a budget issue. it's a union busting issue. >> it's not. >> the states are broke republicans when they were elected to office, taking away their collective far banning rights. ant eventually. i didn't interrupt you. >> bill: it is party politics. if you go back and look at the tape of the broadcast last night. we clearly laid out that the give backs were agreed upon by the union and n...

Inside the house and you stand back and just watch them fight each other. that's not what's happening in wisconsin. firefighters were marching with, fighting with, standing on the front line with and we are staying united with all the workers in wisconsin. this is a cheap trick by walker trying to eliminate the ability of those workers to be represented. >> and chris -- >> let's let the governor speak. here's governor scott making a point. i think you will disagree with this. here he is today. governor walker saying what the fight's about. >> if i have to choose between the demands of a few un...

Let me ask one other question -- are they willing to give up, a teacher in wisconsin, ohio, can i get out of the union? i don't want to pay, don't want to pay mandatory dues every year, can i basically get out of the union? >> ron, what do you? >> you bargain. you bargain at the table. right now there is no table. the governor will not come to the table. >> if this is a budget issue, they have clearly given -- they're clearly willing to contribute more into the pot. i think when you talk about the voters and ed you know a lot about this. independent voters will look and say, we didn't want you...