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Rates that are going up so dramatically, we've got to deal with that. i do think we'll get tax reform done, deal with the budget issues. we have to deal with half a trillion of overspending just this year. you start to get a lot of these things done, i think the american people can say it's messy, it's noisy, the language wasn't always artful in the process, the tweets at one a.m. weren't always my favorite, but we're getting things done and making progress. the american people were extremely frustrated, and i think the international community was frustrated that the previous administration se...

>> working overtype to drive a wedge between president trump and the freedom caucus to move president trump toward the center. i think it will back fire. >> lisa: greg, is this a fight worth having? >> greg: i don't know. it's file this under what do you expect? you backed a nonideological centrist. you are bound to get nonideological centrist movements from him. you know, it' he's establishmen, caucus isn't. ironic i think you would call it. >> lisa: republicans are great at circular firing squad. everyone is pointing the finger at each other. do you think there is a chance everyone had a par...

>> i guess is gorsuch worth that? is this fight worth risking that or is this a political tool to be held off on using until down the road? >> i understand your question. i think, and i think the answer though is that let's look at judge gorsuchs' record and make a determination about whether or not he's going to consistently side with corporate special interests. if you look at his opinions, that is the fear many of us have. we're going to have the hearings coming up and he'll have a chance to answer. >> i want to talk also about budget issues, but i also want to talk about the debt ceiling. ...

May play out let's bring in california republican congressman mcclintock. he'll be attending the session down the hall. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> shannon: a more conservative group on the mihill has suggest there's no real chance to amend it and what can you do to influence the changes that you see need to be changed? >> it's been a convoluted process and adapt to reform when it's about budget issues so there's a lot of constraints that are not normally part of the legislative process and you're right we cannot amend the bill in committee but we can instruct the ...

About the health care bill but he did a total flip and when he got passionate it was about going after these judges and these rulings. he said this is an issue of national security, it was an issue he ran on and continues to pursue. this is going to be an ongoing fight for this white house because this is something that the president thought sort of had been taken care of. one of the talking points after the first travel ban was that we've made these switches that will make the difference here. >> let me swing you ove as we keep an eye on what's going to happen with these legal battles, let's ...