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Precipitation drugs in without a financing mechanism. we did all sorts of stuff that distorted or budget processes, the way we spend money and collect money. this is a really big opportunity to either change it proactively with a large deal or to see some really big changes come in without doing anything. either way they have a pretty serious consequence, so i really think it is deserving of the saturation. >> dan, i'm just going to -- i'll say this. you ought to hear this, too. this is probably the 15 theth straight show we've talked about the fiscal cliff, so we're guilty of it, too. >> dan ...

Rules and intend to work within the parameters of what's allowed. as you know, very, very well, this is a process that only allows for changes in budget processes. you can't do insurance reform through this process. it has to be items related to deficits and to budget issues. and so that's the parameters under which we are working. it's a limited number of changes. i mean, we've passed health care reform with a super majority. this is a limited number of changes to improve the bill, things that i think are very important to make health insurance more affordable and do some other significant th...

Allows for changes in budget processes. you can't do insurance reform through this process. it has to be items related to deficits and to budget issues. and so that's the parameters under which we are working. it's a limited number of changes. i mean, we've passed health care reform with a super majority. this is a limited number of changes to improve the bill, things that i think are very important to make health insurance more affordable and do some other significant things. and we are going to move ahead within the rules that are available to us to get this done. and i would say finally thi...

This is a process that only allows for changes in budget processes. you can't do insurance reform through this process. it has to be items related to deficits and to budget issues. and so that's the parameters under which we are working. it's a limited number of changes. i mean, we've passed health care reform with a supermajority. this is a limited number of changes to improve the bill, things that i think are very important to make health insurance more affordable and do some other significant things. and we are going to move ahead within the rules that are available to us to get this done. ...