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And paul ryan has just wrapped up a defense industry roundtable. fayetteville, north carolina. home, of course, to ft. bragg. also a battleground state. that is where we find nbc's ron motte. ron, what is paul ryan talking about today? >> reporter: hey there, and degr rea. this was an anything but akin speech day. they were here to talk about defense spending in particular. one thing that paul ryan said to the audience here, it mostly looked like a business crowd here, is the current budget sequester which could go into effect on the second day of new year would hammer defense spending by the ...

Send it back to you, andrea. at the very end of this discussion today, the moderator opened the floor up to questions from the assembled audience then said we'll hear from the media with questions after that. paul ryan quickly said, oh, no, no, no, we donwent do that. we didn't get a chance to get on the record with his position on the budget sequester. we'll try again next time. >> ron, i know you will. thank you very much. great having you out there zblunch. up next, tony perkins joins us from the family research council already in tampa. still ahead, tracking isaac with an eye toward ta...

trayvon martin was shot and killed, could be a key piece of evidence. he had a closed fracture of his nose, two black eyes, two cuts to the back of his head in a minor back injury. i want to go to martin savidge covering the story for us. with all these new details and developments does it help zimmerman's argument he was in fact standing his ground they killed trayvon martin in self-defense? >> reporter: it depends on who you talk to. here's the way it breaks down. this information coming from the prosecution, the special prosecutor angela corey, they had to provide the basics of th...

Up. >> that becomes a matter of time being. i think senator reid has made the judgment, quite correctly that there is very little chance that we will get the two sides together before the election. >> reporter: senator conrad the democratic chairman of the senate budget committee says he plans to introduce a pweufpblgt his own. he recommended the president accept the recommendations of his own deficit commission, the bowls simpson commission which will obama declined to follow. >> he asked me for my advice, i told him, look, if you embrace this totality of bowls simpson what will happen is tha...

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