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Tab but still gets it done? >> looked like i've had some influence on you. i've been saying for months now that we ought to stop talking about ten-year budgets and look at what we can do in five years. so that $5 trillion comes from a ten year number. i've been advocating do things in five years. put some things off for three years and do it on the back end. >> neil: the rest of your party is considering that? look, whatever clyburn said some time ago that the good idea, let's cut down the duration and do that, maybe because you realize that's the only way to get the deal done? >> i said it th...

Conditionality that's a part of policy which i think isn't persuasive at all is overridden by the fact that the aid was already appropriated. omb is supposed to be dotting the is, crossing the ts and cutting the check, right? >> exactly. i think that's why these omb officials are important and that's why mulvaney is such an important witness because he is the acting omb director. he really does understand this budget stuff. and, you know, this was the leverage that trump had to extract the commitment that he wanted from zelensky, the president of ukraine. so for those reasons mulvaney is an im...

Is serious, people stay home and have hurricane parties and get caught like what happened in louisiana they didn't leave or didn't even see the significance of the storm until it was too late. but you also, there is a significant economic impact when ever basically a state shuts down because something is coming and we hope and pray this thing turns north, obviously, but the question, do people get tired of that? i don't think there's an answer, but we have to be careful every day when we do that. >> yeah, the risk and fear of complacency. turn back to when you're headed back to washington. hur...

Going to screw up budget negotiations. >> yes, i know from speaking with republicans, and we all know, mcconnell is serious about getting the budget deal done with president trump when he knows it's pretty unpredictable. >> my favorite line of the day of mitch mcconnell, he goes i hope the secretary of treasury was representing the white house. because he'll take that deal if he was actually speaking for the president. which of course, nobody knows if he is. >> i think from talks i had, nancy pelosi and mcconnell have been pretty engaged and having fruitful discussions about the budget stuff. ...

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