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On this buffet rule. one of the things that younger people are saying is that the student debt is awful right now. that's a real bread and butter issue. the interest rate could go up from 3.4% to 6.8%. you could use some of that money to help young people go to college. if you can connect the arrogance on the part of romney and disrespect of the country by hiding his money over seas to problems that people have like going to college, he might be able to draw the right comparison. >> all legal, the guy is a straight arrow, so why doesn't he just get it over with. thank you, we're out of time, b...

Officials in chicago tell me this is not a side show. they believe the fact that the president has been out there on the stump pushing to change this tax system while mitt romney has not been and has not been in support of the buffet rule. they think that's a big difference and they're going to take that to the voters in november. >> shepard: ed henry live at the white house. our technicians are working to bring a live report from our correspondent in north korea. greg palkot will join us as soon as the satellite gods allow. meantime, has your mayor ever saved your life? hear how one mayor ris...

Independents except when it can be apply to a policy issue. they're trying to just not talk about romney's wealth, but to talk about it in the context of the so called buffet rule that says millionaires should not pay taxes lower than their secretaries. if they can apply that with r romney as the personification of it, then they can. >> it's funny, both sides trying to gain an advantage from this, van. earlier this afternoon i looked at drudge. obama doesn't qualify buffet rule. he himself wouldn't apply but he's seeking to impose it. if you go to the upper left there's these terrible things a...

I don't blame her for crying, she is going to inherit it. >> joining me now is jared bernsteen, and maria kumar, thanks for coming on the show. >> thank you. >> jared, let me start with you, the president released his new tax returns today. it showed obama paid just over 20% in an income of $790,000. the president's plan would make wealthy people like him pay more, isn't that just sumply fairness? >> i think it is and a lot of people are thinking about the buffet rule, of course, and even with an income of almost 800,000, you would not want to get over the buffet rule it's over a million.

He's got to be able to tie this to something real. for instance, next week there's going to be an opportunity, a vote on this buffet rule. one of the things that some of the younger people are saying is the student debt is awful right now. that's a real bread and butter issue. the interest rate on student debt could go up from 3.6% to 3.8%. with the buffet rule you could use some of that money. fairer taxes for rich people to help young people go to college. if he can help this arrogance of romney to actual problems people have like trying to go to college, he might be able to draw the right c...