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Right, charles? >> it's like talking about the fights he picks this is another one of those bytes that he picks and it's a very smart bite to pick. the reason that he will not budge off the world wall is because he knows that you go to washington and you say i will build a wall the first thing everyone says is we don't need a wall you mean like a fence and he says no, i mean a wall. no, you mean sensors and stuff like that and he says no, i mean a wall. it's brilliant because what he is done as he's defined his enemy or all of his opponents as being anti- wall or anti- border security although...

Border but people are cutting through it so we need the wall. i know you're thinking greg, i can see through a fence and how do i know what's coming if they built the wall. >> you have to have see-through. you can be 2 feet away from a criminal cartel if you don't know are there. you have to have some sleep. it's a problem. greg: he thanks of everything. but what about scaling the wall and how do the walls keep people from doing that. these prototypes are massive. who would think of just climbing over? >> would think? who would think? beginning over the top is easy. these are professional moun...

Greg: i would not want that in my house. kat, do you thank you made a good case for the wall? kat: i understand that everyone who watches the show loves the wall and that you love the wall and that everyone will hate me for not loving the wall but i don't want the wall. greg: it's okay not to love the wall just like it. doesn't your department have walls? i love that argument. kat: okay, greg. they don't also cost me tens of millions of dollars when the same thing could be done by removing welfare incentives and ending the drug war. that would solve the problem that way. greg: why not take the...

Recesses of his mind he thanks that but it's a debate he is having so he will call the wall and will build a wall along the entire border and is a big beautiful commodore. >> my favorite part is the people who become deficit hawks when it comes to that wall. the wall is too expensive but all the stuff when they have like let's test out if this fish can survive in 25 degrees in less than $15 on hundred billion dollars on that and because i read on the treadmill. i don't know why we can't do what kat recommended and the wall. this is national security and these are mexican drug cartels coming ov...

We've already got a fence on the border but people are cutting through it so we need the wall. i know you're thinking greg, i can see through a fence and how do i know what's coming if they built the wall. >> you have to have see-through. you can be 2 feet away from a criminal cartel if you don't know are there. you have to have some sleep. it's a problem. greg: he thanks of everything. but what about scaling the wall and how do the walls keep people from doing that. these prototypes are massive. who would think of just climbing over? >> would think? who would think? beginning over the top is ...