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With you, because in your legislation the usa freedom act, you are calling for an end to the bulk collection of this metadata. are you going to fight the president on this? >> no, i have a way we can do this. it's not a question of fighting the president, it's is what is the congress going to do about this. the court was very critical a few years ago. the abuses of the procedures we had to collect data are soon to clamp down. i worry because we just saw what happened, for example, the snowden thing, there's so much on snowden, we still don't know everything that was stolen. and that worries yo...

To be answer there had. i don't think it was a gee whiz luck event that he ended up in moscow under the handling of the fsb. >> that's a significant development if true. >> i said we have questions we have to answer. as somebody who used to do investigations, some of the things we're finding we would call clues that would certainly indicate to me that he had some help and he stole things that had nothing to do with privacy. and if i just real quickly, real quickly, the oversight that is conducted, that's what's the interesting thing about this. with all the disclosures we find out holy macke...

For us to realize that it's possible for us to have security while also not overstepping our right to privacy. >> can we do it without -- i mean, as i've listened to you and others who oppose these programs, the thing is the bulk collection. it's all the metadata. if the government committed to having a huge database with our information, now, look, there has not been evidence of abuse even if you think that mere act is abusive, the collecting all of that data. >> indeed. but i would not like to have that hanging over my head. i think it is absolutely possible for the nsa to do their job witho...

Forward. the president announced that the bulk collection of telephone metadata will continue, but intelligence officials will now need to obtain specific approval from the fisa court, before they're allowed to tap into all that data, for whatever reason they want to tap into it. they'll no longer have unrestricted access to use that data however they want. we also learned today that president obama plans to move the actual phone records database out of the government's control, and to some sort of outside entity. he gave the attorney general, eric holder, and other intelligence officials, to ...

The president asked congress to create a panel of public advocates to counter government search requests. he asked the attorney general and intelligence community to explore moving the data out of nsa control. he also ordered an end to spying on the leaders of dozens of close u.s. allies but he left several questions unanswered, including who will hold the phone metadata, the phone companies or a new third party, and which cases the public advocate would take part in. he did not eliminate bulk collection, arguing it's just too important. >> not only because i felt they made us more secure, but...