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Get more data so we need more data. in fact at least in the way the partisans, both in the administration and republican party talked about it, there's no evidence and they have not presented any hard-core evidence that bulk collection of records has helped foil any terrorist plots two cases which people like dianne feinstein and democratic senator mike rogers, said prove that bulk collection worked, actually showed the opposite. old-fashioned intelligence work, and we need to start with that and then need a president who will tell the director of national intelligence, the heat of the nsa, th...

Government and foreign publics can have some assurance the surveillance capabilities are focused on threats and not focused on necessary that is not necessary to hold and might be seen as an intrusion on their privacy. >> as many as 200 text messages a day were being collected from around the world by the nsa at least as recently as 2011. is that still going on? >> i would say generally that people need to draw a distinction. people aren't sitting around reading everybody's text messages all day. that wouldn't be a good use of anybody's time and not necessary, would be an intrusion on privacy....

Save it all, and access it all, that maybe we can get rid of some of it. some of it may stored with the phone company, some may not be stored at all and there are other ways that we can track terrorist networks. >> theoretically, how do they come up with that? >> i don't know. i really think he was saying let's give this a shot. let's think about this. and i think this is important. there's a mentality of collect it all regardless of whether or not it's useful or not and it's not just phone metadata. it's internet metadata. >> how about the bulk collection from all of the conversations that ar...

Communications providers to like public more information than ever before about the orders that they have received to provide data to the government. this brings me to the program that has generated the most controversy these past few months, the bulk collection of telephone records under section 215. let me repeat what i said when this story first broke. this program does not involve the content of phone calls or the names of people making calls. instead it provides a record of phone numbers and the times and length of calls. metadata that can be queried if and when we have a reasonable suspi...

Compelling at all. it's pretty clear that the problem before 9/11 had very little to do with insufficient intelligence collection and everything to do with insufficient intelligence sharing. it's not that nsa didn't have the resources to know that he was in the united states, for example. they chose not to share that information with an agency that might act on it like the fbi. i'm not that concerned. especially given the president's own review group agreed with basically every other expert analysis. and said this program has not really been essential, it hasn't been the key to stopping any pa...