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The house in arizona. you might remember him, he testified before the january six committee a were being pressured by donald trump and rudy giuliani and he was being pressured to reverse the decision and said you cannot do anything to violate the law and donald trump called him out by name, supported his opponent and called him a coward. i talked to bowers about that about what it was late to go up against the trump machine and he had advice for americans watching this about what the stakes are and what it is like to be an donald trump cross hairs. it is like to be an donald trump cross hairs-...

I don't think people necessarily dislike bullies as long as they're on their side. >> does your party like bullies? come on. i have a statistic for you. chris christie strong leader among everybody, 49%. among a bully, 26%. among your crowd, republicans, 71% say he is a strong leader. only 11% say he is a bully. >> they want someone to get something done and tame the bureaucracy. >> it's a bully party. anyway, let me read you, i have to leave you with this, jonathan. this is what abraham lincoln said in a manner similar to this. if the end brings me out all right, what is said against me won't...

Among everybody, 49%. among a bully, 26%. among your crowd, republicans, 71% say he is a strong leader. only 11% say he is a bully. >> they want someone to get something done and tame the bureaucracy. >> it's a bully party. anyway, let me read you, i have to leave you with this, jonathan. this is what abraham lincoln said in a manner similar to this. if the end brings me out all right, what is said against me won't amount to anything. if the end brings me out wrong, then ten angels swearing i was right would make no difference. >> here is what i have to say to that, chris. i highly doubt there...