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Four seats, plus or minus. it means democrats are still in the game of possibly, actually controlling the senate. symone? >> let's bring in -- to this conversation. she's an associate professor at -- and the politics editor for thegrio. it's very good to see you here. we have been talking a lot tonight about what has made a difference in this election. we talk about the issue of roe and abortion, but we haven't talked about the vice president of united states about america, vice president harris. want to get your thoughts on the fact that she embrace this issue of roe, of abortion and one arou...

People that live in those affected areas we don't want zero policing, its those voices that have been heard now as opposed to the louder soda of media voices or the large bully pulpits that represented a minority of the population that didn't those who were the ones who were crying for the abolition of. >> they're answer is always we need to double down on this it' a huge mistake in some moderate have pointed out, now the polic department police department is a third smaller and the highest homicide rate in minneapolis since the 1990s. its extraordinary. they're is a really powerful go ad wher...

The top of their game. with huge bully pulpits, if you will. and i think one of the things that the pope is trying to consistently say is there is a moral vocab i ulary we share. when you hear the president, he talks about human dignity, solidarity, these are big idea concepts and they're trying to see where they can find some synergy and work together on that front. >> ambassador diaz, you have, well, pope francis has differences within the church, right? more conservative wings, you might say he comes from the liberal wing of the catholic church on many issues. just as biden himself has pers...

Foreign enemies were then adopted by some of our own folks right here in the united states of america. and the fight against that, the information that is good, the trusted information that comes from elections officials across the united states of america, that's what we need to promote, that's what we need to push. and as secretaries of state across the united states, which have a varying degree of involvement in either administering or regulating elections, depending on which state it is, these are the bully pulpits from which this solid information must come. >> adrian, thank you so much f...

The bully pulpit of bully pulpits. >> we had jimmy fallon doing a mini olympics for "let's move" on the state floor of the white house in like this unitard that he wore. >> no way, jimmy. >> gotcha. >> kind of weird but it got the message across. >> i think she strategically chose television shows, having a good time with ellen on her daytime show. all of those things put her in people's living rooms day after day. >> so she just was living her values and letting the world see that. and it changed perception. >> not everyone was in favor of the effort to remove junk food from schools. some con...