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It means they are competitors. ed: joining me live is a foreign policy fellow at the brookings institution joining us from washington. thanks for joining us. >> a pleasure. ed: let's dispense with this question about nato. the president's critics have been saying that some of his verbal barbs that germans and others was an attempt to split nato because that's something vladimir putin wants, to see a weak nato. the president tweeted no, we have never been stronger. i'm not trying to split the alliance. but he has tough words for the e.u. where do you come down on what he's really doing here? >>...

But at some point it will heal. there is a message for you. you can imagine the president's arrival here coming after that contentious nato summit and that bilateral meeting in england with british prime minister theresa may. it was interesting watching the president tell nato members you have to pay your fair share for security and you should be bet tour is and open your markets to u.s. goods and services. mentioning the $150 billion trade deficit. meanwhile his counterpart, russian president vladimir putin leaving this country after the big world cup finale yesterday that saw france topple c...

He's blowing up nato. then you just listed a series of things that were successes coming out of the nato summit. we are hearing critics saying he shouldn't sit down with putin. putin has already won because he wants to be on a world stage with a higher profile. now with the president setting expectations pretty low. could we see positive things come out of this summit despite the criticism? >> in many ways the president's pressing on nato and the 2% mark which all nato members agreed to a long time ago has been good for nato. all u.s. presidents have been frustrated by this underspending bit s...

Spending. most european allies are not hitting the 2% park but they plan top hit it by 2024. but nato accomplished a lot of things. they recommitted to article 5. they committed to opening two new structures that will have an eye toward russia and try to deter russian aggression. on the e.u., i think the president sees the e.u. in transactional terms. he sees them as a trade partner and he doesn't think the united states is getting a great deal from the trade relationship. when he says they are a foe, he's talking about the trade sense of the word. ed: the president delights in being a disrupt...

Part of your dudeys in checking twitter from time to time. hillary clinton said something interesting. she said great world cup. mentioning the president's tweet by the. the question for president trump as he meets putin. do you know which team you play for? more trolling. we are looking forward to the press conference. ed, i know you are. i would like to see it go long like we saw in england with the president and the prime minister, but no guarantee of that. ed: i suspect the president and his aides would like to see hillary clinton leave the stage once and for all as he takes center stage. ...