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I'm chris jansen in new york. just try to follow joe joe. >> i mean, can we just do the next hour on -- can we do more stories. and imagine if you're in jo-jo's position and you see icons on the soccer field and football field. he's an example, by the way, for all of us. >> yeah. he's doing things that you and i couldn't do. amazing kid. we love you, jo-jo. all right, everybody. it is thursday july 25th. i'm going to try and follow that story. we'll see how it goes. and hours after special counsel bob mueller testified that russia is still trying to meddle in our elections, current fbi direc...

Americans' pocketbooks and their own personal lives. and so i think at this point that is probably the conversation that really most americans are listening for as they size up these democratic candidates. msnbc's garrett haake actually got reaction from on the ground in michigan. i want to take a listen to what some of the takeaway was from the hearing. >> i think that, you know, special counsel mueller did a great job. i don't think that it should be the end of the conversation, only because he did say that the president did in fact commit a crime. >> reporter: so should democrats pursue imp...