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Do it. you know how trump is always saying: >> this whole election is being rigged. >> so of course someone tweeted now we all know who's rigging the election. #billy bush made me do it. even when cher got into the act. how can trump stand up to putin if he couldn't stand up to billy bush. this four-year-old tweeted billy bush made me put this paper towel over my head. billy is being bush whacked. john oliver said in the segment. >> bleesh is being creepy with everyone. >> how do you feel about your butt. >> where you kidding? you did not ask me that. >> i did. >> and the 2005 bus scene. melan...

Foreign policy, so i think that -- >> you wanted to focus on policy. i get that. why are you holding four fingers up, penn? >> it was four years ago, not 10. the celebrity apprentice stuff he was doing was much of more recent. >> you're not talking about the bus scene. i wish i had more time with you, people say you are who you are in your unguarded moments rather than your guarded moments. that's when you really show yourself. it's a cliche for a reason. >> but don, that wasn't necessarily an unguarded moment. if i heard penn correctly, and the way i understand these shows is there's lots of ...

>> not particularly. it was too long ago. when you at the debate -- well the friday night tapes and that whole bus scene was really annoying. and then the debate when you specifically asked trump had he ever groped a woman or i forget how you phrased it and he said no. >> i asked if he was just bragging about sexual assault or actually done what he said. kissed a woman without consent or groped a woman. >> right. he said no. i literally wanted to throw something at the tv and punch my hand in the tv. that was sunday night and monday morning i found myself writing an e-mail letter to the editor...

My son-in-law, my son, friends. my nephew, the whole thing. and over the year and a half that i've been telling it, it is like -- it doesn't change it at all. it still infuriates me when i think about it. but, you know, that was a long time ago. it wasn't until sunday night -- and all of them. all of my friends would say oh you have got to -- you have got to write this story up. you have got to publish it. you have got to contact somebody and make it known. and too long ago. >> you didn't want to do that? >> no. not particularly. it was too long ago. but when you at the debate -- well the frid...

The friday night tapes and that whole bus scene was really annoying. and then the debate when you specifically asked trump had he ever groped a woman or i forgot how you phrased it. he said no. >> i asked if he ever was just bragging about sexual assault or actually done what he said. had he ever kissed a woman without consent or groped a woman. >> right. he said no. i literally wanted to throw something at the tv or punch my hand in the tv. that was sunday night and monday morning i found myself writing an e-mail. letter to the editor of "the times." >> something about him actually denying it...