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Weapons used in aurora and newtown were not on the band weapons list. a smith & wesson and bush master, what are we doing here? if we're trying to stop newtown, putting in an assault weapons ban, that wouldn't have stopped the person the sale of this to begin with. >> sean: i think we have it on the screen here. we have the two weapons in new york and now have the toughest gun laws in new york and the they put it in the paper today and they are the exact same weapon with one difference, one has a grip. the other one doesn't have a grip. >> right. >> sean: most shooters i know don't use a grip ...

Weapons used in aurora and newtown were not on the band weapons list. a smith & wesson and bush master, what are we doing here? if we're trying to stop newtown, putting in an assault weapons ban, that wouldn't have stopped the person the sale of this to begin with. >> sean: i think we have it on the screen here. we have the two weapons in new york and now have the toughest gun laws in new york and the they put it in the paper today and they are the exact same weapon with one difference, one has a grip. the other one doesn't have a grip. >> right. >> sean: most shooters i know don't use a grip ...

Owners. it represents gunman ewe factturers. and they don't want to have any reasonable restrictions on guns because every clip, every high-capacity slip that's sold, prapgs one of their people are selling it. every accessory, gun, ar-15, bush master, one of their people are selling it. so they're in the business of supporting people who traffic in-depth. and so they don't want to prevent that or they don't want anyone to even curtail that. >> so this is not about they're protecting people that feel they need to engage in self defense for their families or about hunters? you're saying this is ...

Ban will go down. everyone is acting like it's dead in the water and harry reid, hey, let's man up and try to do the right thing. we may surprise ourselves. >> don't be a with us, right? >> right. don't be a wuss. >> i think they -- my thought, you can't have reaction to what happened up in connecticut without dealing with the weapon used, the bush master. >> absolutely. >> unless that's on your hit list of weapons you want to keep from the crazy the at least. >> and, again, i think you're right there. that's going to be part of where the conversation is going to go from here on out. >> you ha...

Shall not be infringed. what part of that don't you understand. >> here is what i don't understand, 230 years no one said it was a right. a musket against the british. >> sean: right of the people. >> one second. right now the 2nd circuit in new york said you don't have a right to take a concealed loaded handgun on the street. scalia said you had a right in your home. >> sean: george washington, rifles and pistols are equally indispensable, they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. and thomas jefferson, no man should be barred the use of arms. >> were they talking about semi automati...