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>> i don't know. >> he's trying to kill the nomination, it seems, at least you could argue that, nomination of her to the secretary of state f she is the president's pick. something nobody i know knows for a fact, by the way. >> that's a good point. here is the analogy i would use to ask senator mccain to reconsider. eight years ago condoleezza rice at roughly the same age as susan rice is now had a legacy that was not altogether perfect in the first bush term. as national security adviser she had been responsible for trying to coordinate different positions or at least bring them up to a leve...

A nuclear weapon used against us. i would say that was a problem. >> and i like condi rice, and i'm glad the senate confirmed her, but there were more serious mistakes made in the first bush term on intelligence and also on coordinating as condi rice's job required her to do. it wasn't all her fault, therefore the senate gave her a second chance. this is a much smaller issue, and, therefore, i think the senate should also give a second chance even if people think susan rice made a mistake here. >> isn't it interesting they're accusing her of flacking for the administration, which is what condi...

John mccain likes to fight. that's what he does. kids in the backseat fight. people fight in the middle east. john mccain fights. it's his normal mode of living. is he wanting to bring this thing for weeks -- does it look like he's in the mood now to keep this going through christmas? >> i don't know. >> he's trying to kill the nomination, it seems, at least you could argue that, nomination of her to the secretary of state f she is the president's pick. something nobody i know knows for a fact, by the way. >> that's a good point. here is the analogy i would use to ask senator mccain to reconsi...

Christmas? >> i don't know. >> he's trying to kill the nomination at least it seems you could argue that. the nomination of her to sergeant of state if she is the president's pick. something nobody i know knows for a fact. >> that's a good point. here is the analogy i would use to ask senator mccain to reconsider. eight years ago condoleezza ris at roughly the same age susan rice is had a legacy that was not altogether perfect in the first bush term. as national security adviser, she had been responsible for trying to coordinate different positions or at least bring them up to a level of decis...

And-- >> and like 1998, is ancient history. >> it kind of is, neil, yeah. >> in the technology world it is. >> on the internet. (laughter) >> talk to my daughter, oh, my god, dad, that's so second bush term. >> and i've got to be honest, that new alanis moreset cd you were telling me about. i don't want to be the one-- >> all right, all right. >> here is the bottom line, these companies are accountable, they're held accountable and you know, the thing that the private sector and the government have in common, they can gussy things up. and they can have commercials and packages. >> neil: and fo...