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Has no choice, he doesn't have money to launch missiles or detonate nukes, that's important. trump can actually get countries around the world to sign on if they're not talking about button size. >> did it seem -- does it seem to you that north korea is trying to reach out to south korea? there was an article in the "times" today talking about maybe kim jong-un is trying to drive a wedge between the u.s. and south korea. >> yeah, i mean, he's trying to drive the wedge between the two allies. he needs to do that because he believes, kim jong-un believes that in order to save his regime, you kno...

And then a communications link that's got to get verified to strategic command. so, there is a process here. once they've authenticated that it actually is the president, there's really no legal way to interfere with an order to go to a launch, though bill perry, the former secretary of defense under president clinton said a few weeks ago that if he was faced with an order he thought was unwise, he might find an illegal way to slow it down. on the north korean side, there's no ability right now to launch on warning. it takes them a while to fuel up their missiles and in fact, there's a huge vu...

Isn't working? >> we know his policies in general are working. we are seeing anecdotal evidence, all sorts of things indicating the regime is hurting. that is a result of president trump's policy to cut off money flows to north korea so kim jong-un can't launch missiles or detonate nukes. he needs the help of the international community in this. he doesn't get it when he mentions things like button size. >> why not? why does that kind of tweet, as silly as it may sound to people, why doesn't that help with allies? >> well, we're going to need to have some pretty tough conversations with the so...