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Young people. it's very good. but you have to do both. you have to be able to reach the people who still have a radio and it needs to be a fundamental part of what we're doing. gregg: do you think this is a policy that is sort of set forth, if not, per se, but the mentality of the obama white house? >> yeah. i think that when president obama campaigned, he came in and he said, no more wars. i'm going to end all the other wars and i'm not going to start any new ones. that in and of itself is a very political statement to say. that we're not going to get involved no matter what happens, we're no...

you think the white house is getting their point across? that is a countdown clock showing nine days that that is how much time the white house has to extend the payroll tax cut or your taxes are going to go up. americans can go to this site and actually share their stories of what will happen to them if they lose their $40 per paycheck. that's the average an american will lose. let me bring in dan lothian and, dan, this seems like a full-on pr campaign by the white house and they're keeping the pressure up and i don't know if people saw it on the screen. this is what happened if con...