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Into that cake. i think that alienates independent voters, ate pear rance oesks dreamism by some of the folks. the more they can stay on the fiscal conservative message it is a win for the republican party and the tea heaters in the terms of bridging ground with center and independents f they start being defined by the extremes that is kryptonite to the independent and look elsewhere. >> you have an intriguing, eye-opening piece on the daily beast i just read involving the john birch society and the conservative movement what is going on here? i thought the john birch society was a thing of th...

Sensible thing they have on the list. this is such a weenie little situation. >> you're saying that about chuck schumer? i want to talk about c-pac. >> don't want to talk about grover cleveland? >> we can talk about glover cleveland. you're wanting your way there. what's your take? >> almost feels like -- >> it's where conservatives meet once a year. >> these are the -- it does freak me out that there are people in there discussing millification. not since the civil war have we discussed millification as a good plan in this country. all this sort of succession stuff. that part is scary. the re...

Has passed these people by, that these are the '90s conservatives. >> it's interesting you said that, i went to grover norquist's meeting yesterday. it's amazing you nuanced and subtle. people would stand up and spout conspiracy theorys. he'd roll his eyes, like please, we have so much to work with. you can really see where the true movement leaders are going and you got c-pac. i'm sure there's good people there, but they have glenn beck, a guy that called the president a racist who hated all white people, as they keynote speaker. you're sitting there, really, is that who you want to project a...

Later this week, where he's going to speak and where, of course, there's this much-watched presidential straw poll. >> political action committee, of course. thank you very much ken vogel. breaking news out of indiana. minutes from now, senator evan bayh is expected to announce he will not seek re-election. nbc political director and white house correspondent chuck todd joins us with more on the political impact next on "andrea mitchell reports." 

It's super awkward and so the choreographer had a fun time making sure rush was dancing just horribly. >> you also had the video of him back at c-pac. here is how i judge the success of a musical. if i see 15 kids singing songs, that must abe hot new show. can you picture teenagers singing the songs from rush the musical? >> i sure hope so. we do a nice blend of the broadway prestige stuff with songs that are parody of the band rush out of canada. we try to hit a wide swath. >> kelly, i'm sure this will be a lot of fan for people who are fans of rush limbaugh and perhaps those who aren't. than...