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Being conflated into a choice issue is missing -- >> it's like somebody jumped ahead of you in the cab line. >> exactly. like -- >> a little rough -- >> i think the president is right to be calling attention to this, but i don't think it's right for him to say and that's why we shouldn't have men legislating on women's issues. men shouldn't be saying this stuff either. no one should be saying this. this shouldn't be acceptable to anybody on either side of the aisle. >> i think the important -- sexual assault victims need wrap-around services, lots of wrap-around services. what they don't need ...

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20 to 30 years in prison perhaps, and then she's told, oh, by the way, if you have an abortion, you choose to end the pregnancy the first couple days, you will go to jail. you put it all together with the 14th amendment stuff and the personhood stuff, that's the implication. >> it's part of a broader trend. we've talked about the shame and intimidation that's being directed towards women who are making choices about their own bodies. the thing that's most disturbing to me about this rape talk is somehow it's sort of undermined the severity and the criminality of rape. and that is inexcusable. ...