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Life before he became famous with the cable programs and the litigation involving president trump. he became massively in debt. he's accused of shifting fund to cover those debts. but he was a man in a free-fall, even when he was on these cable programs. it's a terrible waste of talent. jesse: while he was getting the fauci treatment on every show, is was at that time he was spiraling out of control. everybody could see this coming except a lot of the press. it's a shame. it didn't have to happen that way. >> it's a sad thing for his family. jesse: it's sad for the people he tried to go after....

It's true he lost control of his life before he became famous with the cable programs and the litigation involving president trump. he became massively in debt. he's accused of shifting fund to cover those debts. but he was a man in a free-fall, even when he was on these cable programs. it's a terrible waste of talent. jesse: while he was getting the fauci treatment on every show, is was at that time he was spiraling out of control. everybody could see this coming except a lot of the press. it's a shame. it didn't have to happen that way. >> it's a sad thing for his family. jesse: it's sad for...

Life before he became famous with the cable programs and the litigation involving president trump. he became massively in debt. he's accused of shifting fund to cover those debts. but he was a man in a free-fall, even when he was on these cable programs. it's a terrible waste of talent. jesse: while he was getting the fauci treatment on every show, is was at that time he was spiraling out of control. everybody could see this coming except a lot of the press. it's a shame. it didn't have to happen that way. >> it's a sad thing for his family. jesse: it's sad for the people he tried to go after....

Life before he became famous with the cable programs and the litigation involving president trump. he became massively in debt. he's accused of shifting fund to cover those debts. but he was a man in a free-fall, even when he was on these cable programs. it's a terrible waste of talent. jesse: while he was getting the fauci treatment on every show, is was at that time he was spiraling out of control. everybody could see this coming except a lot of the press. it's a shame. it didn't have to happen that way. >> it's a sad thing for his family. jesse: it's sad for the people he tried to go after....

Illegitimately, think putin did whatever putin did, do they get their money back from watching all of these cable shows come overnight night in an night out, every segment is "they did this, they did that," as you said, it is not a shred of evidence, after all this time, to back up anything that these cable programs are saying. >> it bill come i think you are entirely right about that. i thought that for a long time. i would say this. considering how little evidence there is, no evidence, they have managed to get a pretty good run out of it. not only on the cable shows come over they have gott...