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Chinese nationals showing up doing the same thing, spending tens of thousands of dollars because they know once they get processed and let free, they will be in the interior united states and they are going to have to wait two to five years probably for the backlog of cases, and no judge at that point is going to let them go. there are other scams and schemes that if you go to the border you see just aren't being reported on. >> tucker: it sounds like if you just saw this standing there and mexico border. it's not hidden information, so if you were a producer for like a 10:00 p.m. cable show o...

Anything about it in the short term. and that, you know, all the memes and the visuals aside, that's the seriousness of this. 800,000 individuals and their families are being impacted because of nothing but politics and a lack of conviction and courage to do the right thing. >> michael, you're right. people are already choosing between gasoline, medicine, food, child care, and that's the part of this that ain't right. both gentlemen have agreed to stick around. we're going to pause our conversation just long enough to have a break. we'll come back and continue with carville and steele. i fear ...

Short term. and that, you know, all the memes and the visuals aside, that's the seriousness of this. 800,000 individuals and their families are being impacted because of nothing but politics and a lack of conviction and courage to do the right thing. >> michael, you're right. people are already choosing between gasoline, medicine, food, childcare, and that's the part of this that ain't right. both gentlemen have agreed to stick around. we're going to pause our conversation. just long enough to have a break. we'll come back and continue with carville and steele. i fear a cable show may be on th...

Courage to do the right thing. >> michael, you're right. people are already choosing between gasoline, medicine, food, childcare, and that's the part of this that ain't right. both gentlemen have agreed to stick around. we're going to pause our conversation. just long enough to have a break. we'll come back and continue with carville and steele. i fear a cable show may be on the way with that very same name.

Government and keeping the lights on past midnight friday -- midnight tonight. >> all right. geoff and kasie, you have to hang around this hour as we await to see what this deal may looks like. it sounds like we'll be checking back in within minutes there. but let me take this to the panel. hugh, i'll let you start. it's the talk radio wing that basically dragged the president back from this deal, and now apparently he's inching back. what's the point? >> i had no idea i had such power. in fact, if we had this power, we wouldn't be withdrawing from syria because the talk radio wing is very dee...