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Stupid party" and he talks about what point the republican party decided to become the stupid party. >> i good in trouble with joe last week for calling rick perry stupid. >> it's a subtle title. >> they probably don't -- they probably know more of the work of selma hayek that fredia hhay. >> you're talking about the fringe candidates. i don't know if you would suggest that jon huntsman and mitt romney are stupid. >> talking about herman cain and rick perry. >> not at all. >> even romney now has to say he doesn't know where global warming comes from. even the smart ones have to act stupid. >> ...

Remorse. you're unwilling to admit what you've done. you're willing to place the blame on witnesses and victims and so every time this lawyer takes him further down that road, i am telling you, it's -- it's textbook ineffective assistance of counsel. unless, unless sandusky has said to this attorney, look, i want to do this, i'm going to do this and he's had that fellow sign off on it. it's the craziest thing i've ever seen because it affects the jury trial and possibility of sentencing. >> mike papantonio. thanks so much. why did freddie mac pay newt gingrich $300,000? the answer is next. c...

Remorse. you're unwilling to admit what you've done. you're willing to place the blame on witnesses and victims and so every time this lawyer takes him further down that road, i am telling you, it's -- it's textbook ineffective assistance of counsel. unless, unless sandusky has said to this attorney, look, i want to do this, i'm going to do this and he's had that fellow sign off on it. it's the craziest thing i've ever seen because it affects the jury trial and possibility of sentencing. >> mike papantonio. great to have you with us again tonight. thanks so much. why did freddie mac pay newt...

Conclude is you have no lack of remorse. you're unwilling to admit what you've done. you're willing to place the blame on witnesses and victims and so every time this lawyer takes him further down that road, i am telling you, it's -- it's textbook ineffective assistance of counsel. unless, unless sandusky has said to this attorney, look, i want to do this, i'm going to do this and he's had that fellow sign off on it. it's the craziest thing i've ever seen because it affects the jury trial and it affects the possibility of sentencing. >> mike papantonio. great to have you with us again tonight....

Says about us as a society. >> okay. >> that doesn't mean i think he will definitely collapse. >> let's not pretend we don't have a big problem if people can't get off the cain train. >> they're off the cain train. >> welcome back. joining the table, former governor of vermont, and former chairman of the democratic national committee howard dean and from washington pulitzer prize winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. >> guys, thanks for being with us. "the washington post" calls this herman cain's oops moment. i say, i call...