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Reporting that there's a growing split within the administration itself, that at the senior level, secretary of state, secretary of defense, nsc adviser, they're all for this strategy fouad has been arguing, let's have an orderly transition as hillary clinton has been arguing. but there is a growing group in the middle, the person who drafted the cairo speech, who are pushing to come out more strongly for the demonstrators, let's get rid of mubarak and move along. >> david gergen, appreciate it. dr. fouad ajami, i appreciate it. still ahead, are concerns about the muslim brotherhood and the ...

Who's in charge and sending a very different signal. we've gotten behind the principles part of this now and i think hillary clinton is going to be out there trying to make that happen. we need to move him out of his position because from a league perspective, they can't do what they need to do to bring in other parts are get polls by september unless they have the powers of the presidency unleashed to change the law. people aren't talking about this. there are all sorts of structure problems to achieve fair and free elections in egypt. >> and can you detect any kind of regret from the obama a...

Pro-american. when you say you're american, they smile. we had one soldier who i think had something to drink before we saw him, big smile, we were allowed to go through without having our paperwork. yes, he had a lot to drink, let's be honest. the other thing i would say, when we were on the streets trying to talk to shop keepers who were trying to protect their stores, we were told by the egyptians that we were with that they sid guess what, guys, if anyone asks you, you're british, because they have had some issues in part because of the perception that america supports mubarak himself. now...

Across a lot of bank accounts in order to keep this going. >> are you surprised that our president, barack obama became so interventionist as to tell his partner, as he calls him, president mubarak that they should open up the tefls ovtele over there, open up the internet. are you surprised he got that particular on the phone? sounds like he did with the president. >> well, i frankly find that surprising and disconcerting. i think the president has to be kargful. we're not going to earn kudos in the streets by most of these demonstrators. if we think on the backses of these demonstrators that ...

I wonder how much you think there's a foreign policy implication that weighed into the president's decision in coming out and making the statement on friday? >> i think there are foreign policy implications, but i think what's ironic is that previous -- prior to this happening, the arab world is the arab and muslim world is actually very disappointed with president obama. they feel like he hasn't met up with the expectations set in his cairo speech, which is really ironic, because here republicans portray the president as being too sympathetic to muslims, where most muslims abroad don't actual...