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>> this goes back to the miscalculation point. you surround yourself with yes men and liars in order to delude your population and over time you start to believe that. if you inhabit that, then you're fooled. he was told this is going to be a cake walk. we'll have the most well prepared army on the planet. no problems with fuel or logistics. ukrainians will fold and volodymyr zelenskyy will flee. i think he under estimated the western response. i don't think he would have gone into ukraine if he understood how the western countries would

I mean, you as officials say they've seen indications that some soldiers are suffering from frostbite due to lack of cold weather gear, fuel, food, other logistics problems. tell us more about that. why do you think that is? clearly, given what we knew leading up to this invasion, this had been in the works for a while by vladimir putin and those around him. how can this be? >> yeah, two things. first of all, hubris. i think putin thought this would be a cake walk. 48 hours. i don't need a senior command and control commander because i'm going to go take kyiv. it will take me a couple days. kh...

To demonstrate leadership of nato and of the western world. in terms of being at the forefront of confronting china as well as other countries that are supportive of what russia is doing. and so therefore, i think it's going to be very, very important for president biden to send a very clear message to president xi that there are steps that we can take if china decides to support russia materially in any way, and so therefore, i think it's -- again, it's the right thing for president biden to do, and president xi, i think, now realizes that the cake walk that i think he was expecting based on ...

Center. what's your degree of hopefulness that a negotiated settlement could be reached this time around? >> zero i'm sorry to say. i don't see why vladimir putin is going to be willing to negotiate. i don't think the west wants to admit it but he's slowly but surely making progress on the black sea and in kyiv. he hasn't made as much progress as he expected, he thought it would be a cake walk in ukraine and take kyiv in a enough of days and take out zelenskyy. that hasn't worked out. he has big problems but he's still making progress. i don't see why putin wants to negotiate now. >> well, bec...

Are talking about, the possible use of nuclear weapons by russia. realistically can you imagine a scenario in which that happens? i mean the word catastrophic doesn't seem strong enough. >> no, i know it's crazy we have to talk about these things. and you think of the devastation in ukraine right now is trevrpg, i mean it's a cake walk compared to what could be unleashed with nuclear forces. there is no comparison at all. it's utterly important we make sure it doesn't escalate. >> what could it look like? i mean i think people want to know what does that mean exactly. >> well, first of all, i ...