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Service. thank you, dr. hill, for your comments on the personal attacks. i wanted to ask you each fact-based questions. dr. hill, you testified that you handed over your duties on the nsc to tim morrison on july 15th and that you physically left the white house on july 19th, correct? >> that is correct, yes. >> so that means that by the time there was the july 25th call with president trump and president zelensky, you were no longer on the nsc? , correct? >> actually, i was still technically on the payroll of the nsc until the end of august. august 30th of 2019. but i was not physically in the...

There would be a call, there was a call package prepared in advance. i just cannot say how much of that call package had perhaps been prepared since, for example, the inauguration of president zelensky was then used as basic material for the call, so i did take part in the preparation of that standard call package, but i did not take part in any preparation for the specific call on july 25th. >> and the first time you actually read the transcript of the call is when it was released to the public? >> that's correct. >> mr. holmes, i wanted to turn to you. good to see you again. thank you for me...

Donald trump wakes up this morning, doesn't check on john mccain's health or the tax bill or anything else. he calls vladimir to thank him for the attaboy on the economy. what is going on? >> just exactly what you just said. vladimir putin knows that saying nice things about trump elicits these kind of responses. it's shocking to me that that phone call gets to go through, and we've been talking a lot about the briefers and the intelligence folks coming in for the pdb but there's also something called the national security council and the national security adviser. i worked at that nsc for thr...

That he would have so much time in his schedule to actually take a phone call out of the blue on his cell phone from any world leader. i worked at the white house for three years on the national security council staff, and the president's time was sparsed out in 10 to 20-minute intervals. it seems strange to me that he would interrupt his calendar for that. then the third thing, i would just mention that, again, different presidents operate in different ways, but for every phone call that i was on with the president, president obama, there was a call package. we prepared talking points, we pre...

How many people are listening in on the call? and have you ever had trouble getting a president to study their background briefing prior to a call? >> well, just let me specify, i only worked for one president. barack obama. for three years at the white house before i moved out to moscow. but i prepared many of these calls, you're right, both with president medvedev and putin. you prepare a call package, it's cleared through the national security council, goes through the national security adviser. in that package there's lots of talking points with the sole purpose of advancing american natio...