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Believe their jobs, their way of life, their national sovereignty, their national identity, that's how he reads his base. they believe that all of that has been sold out to sort of globalist elites. donald trump is making what i believe is a symbolic political stand. you just showed it at the beginning. john kerry, the president of france, angela merkel, the eu, they are horrified. they're petrified. they're screaming tonight. donald trump i think is counting his base reads that as finally, finally somebody stood up to them. philip, two things. the president indicated today unless we make a be...

Presidential to call up these massive leaders of business. i think it's very presidential. and if it's not presidential, that's okay. that's okay. because i actually like doing it. >> it's almost something we've never seen before, right? it has been sort of accepted for years that these companies were going to leave. and now you've got a president-elect picking up the phone, calling ceos. trump also had leverage. carrier's parent company earns $5.6 billion from government contracts last year. that's 10% of its total sales come directly from the federal government, and of course the federal gov...

I think there will be wall of shame. there's going to be big complaints. >> my gut feeling is nothing would be better than going over the fiscal cliff. it will hurt but five, ten years down the nothing, we'll be better and healthier. we just got news that president obama was going to meet or a phone call meet with some business leaders. >> right. the white house calling c.e.o.s, a regularly scheduled meeting. presumably it's a regular scheduled meeting not to say we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> the president won't be doing this but the white house will be. >> that's right. it will be int...