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Letter published in 1922. the wise cracking figures like spidey, the x-man, and the fantastic four. >> what i tried to do was take these characters who are obviously bigger than life and fictitious and make them seem real. they have got these powers and do ruffle things. but what are the things that worry them and frustrate them? howie: i learned to write by reading "the defenders." they are all in these notebooks. i also liked the credit.

Their benefit. howie: more on cnn beating the president in court over acosta. president trump unloads on mueller, calling

Emily: they talked about the bitterness. i think there is another thing to say about the president not actually hiding a lot of his frustrations. he's tweeting out in all caps. it's not like he's trying to say he's not frustrated. it's more about the chaos in the white house. when you have the narratives from anonymous sources i can see why he takes issue. howie: the media has this chaos narrative. it would and big deal if trump dumped kelly. ryan zinke, kirstjen nielsen, it would abnormal turnover after the mid-terms.

Go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again! howie: president trump is being described by major media outlet as angry and disengaged and undergoing days of fury. the "l.a. times" and "politico." this said to be fueling his push for another white house shake-up. kirstjen nielsen and chief of staff john kelly. i thought we were going to a sound bite. emily, the president does seem resentful about the coverage of paris. the potential shake-up. then he tells chris wallace the story about fury is based on fictional sources.

Challenging questions in our interview. howie: maybe some of the stories are overstated. he says the white house is running like a well-oiled machine. that's pushing it a little bit. chris: i wouldn't be lending money at this point to john kelly or kirstjen nielsen. can you imagine a president saying about a chief of staff ever, there are some things about him i like and some things i don't like. i remember when round ald reagan -- when ronald reagan made a mild statement good done regan and we all knew he was dead. ' how report judge's ruling for