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Something everybody assumes. when the president talks about paul manafort was there only a while. he's known manafort for years going back. the campaign chair for a pivotal period. who is to say paul manafort after he left the campaign left the campaign -- who is to say -- >> cory lewandowski didn't. >> who is to say paul manafort wasn't still in touch with the campaign or people on the campaign or donald trump and others on the campaign? again, known unknown. how much communication was there? my reporting suggests at least donald trump stayed in touch with paul manafort. how much more he talk...

Charges. we haven't seen the defense case. they will focus on rick gates and his role that's cooperating with the prosecution. we will see what they have to say about rick gates when they get a chance to make up their case. laura: some of the allegations predate the presidential election, president trump voicing frustration on twitter just this week calling manafort's prosecution a hoax going as far that he's being treated worst than al cra spoken, still underlying that there was possible access and opportunity for influence from the prorussia ukrainian officials that manafort was in contact w...

That kind of abusive statement and frankly, that staff person should have apologized a long time ago. we're still a number of days since that comment was made. there's no apology from the staff person, there's no apology from the white house and frankly, that just adds to the disgracefulness of that comment. >> leon panetta, thanks as usual for joining us. >> good to be with you. there's breaking news. a federal judge deals a blow to former trump campaign chairman paul manafort and a big win for the special counsel robert mueller. why this judge tonight is calling manafort, quote, an obvious...

New and different in terms of our increased military assistance with ukraine. >> and two other things i think are interesting here. one is what we're talking about manafort what is also interesting is the degree to which mueller's team is going after manafort's aides and also comey's aides as well. and in the end they may or may not flip someone like manafort in a significant way or more likely may see a significant aide move. the other thing is what congress is doing. you saw the chuck grassley judiciary committee actually held back on calling manafort and others saying talks had broken down....