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The game from the very beginning in every one of these places. >> how do we do that without looking like we're calling the shots in their country politically? >> because it's not about calling shots. you know the building blocks of democracy are not about telling people who to choose, how to vote or picking winners. it's really about educating people ant choice. it's how we live in this country. it's about how you create a political party. it's about using our moral, economic, and frankly, you know, our diplomatic weight to have free press. it's to have freedom of religion. it's so emphasize o...

Countries towards a more pluralistic society, not a choice between, say, the muslim brotherhood and hosni mubarak. and we really need to be in on the game from the very beginning in every one of these places. >> how do we do that without looking like we're calling the shots in their country politically? >> because it's not about calling shots. you know the building blocks of democracy are not about telling people who to choose, how to vote or picking winners. it's really about educating people ant choice. it's how we live in this country. it's about how you create a political party. it's about...

Of all these countries to a -- >> how do we do that without looking like we're calling the shots in their country politically? >> because it's not about calling shots. you know the building blocks of democracy are not about telling people who to choose, or picking winners. it's how we live in this country. it's about how you create a political party. it's about using our moral economic and frankly, you know, diplomatic weight to have free press. it's to have freedom of religion. it's so emphasize our values, treatment of minority, those are the kinds of things that are the building blocks in a...