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A conflagration waiting to happen. aside from all the civilians who have been killed, there is all the refugees, over a million refugees is swamping the middle east and swamping governments in the surrounding area. jenna: a lot of big dynamics at play. one of the things that connects the stories it seems a question about confidence in government. maybe question about the confidence in the camera angle. as we saw the camera slide down. viewers caught that in mid shot. seems like we're on track right now. seems one of the themes we're looking at the crisis of government management in a few diffe...

That. they stayed to help. it was really incredible. >> you said it was like a canon fire. i was watching one video in particular. and it seemed like, and i'm just estimating based on a camera angle that i saw, it seemed like about 20 feet from the finish line and one elderly gentleman in particular, he was running and he was in the middle of the street. then there was a barricade, a police barricade, and then maybe 20 people deep, then the explosion happens right behind where those people were. it was so powerful that the runner in the middle of the street fell down. was it almost like a quak...

Come out and address the crowd? >> yes, you'll have the camera angle, the leading cardinal calm out and say-- >> don't get confused. the first person to come out on the balcony is not the newly elected pope. >> he will say we have a pope and he will read out the name in latin, first of all, the cardinals name in latin. >> megyn: to make sure we're thoroughly confused. >> thoroughly confused and he will say who will rule as-- and then he'll give the choice that the new holy father has made. >> megyn: and we-- some of us may know the new pope upon sight, if it's one of the frontrunners we may kn...

Flip just to survive. so i actually added a few jokes from the podium. but i will say the president had a good sense of humor and probably i did want to know how he would react when i said his secret service code name because he aged a bit in the white house changed from renegade to 50 shades of gray. is that something i normally say to the president of the united states, no, only in that room. >> did you sneak a look at him every time you made a joke every time to make sure it was okay? >> i did, i would like to remain on his export counsel, i was hoping he took it in good humor. >> karen, yo...

But i will say the president had a good sense of humor and probably i did want to know how he would react when i said his secret service code name because he aged a bit in the white house changed from renegade to 50 shades of gray. is that something i normally say to the president of the united states, no, only in that room. >> did you sneak a look at him every time you made a joke every time to make sure it was okay? >> i did, i would like to remain on his export counsel, i was hoping he took it in good humor. >> karen, you have been to a lot of these, i have been to one of these a long time ...