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Googling part, that means he's guilty. >> that means he really loves himself. that's a good thing. i could learn a little something from him. he was looking for pain. this is a historic moment. i will share with white america, this has never happened before in the history of this country, where a brother has asked the police to turn the camera off. [laughter] never happened before. never in my life. do you mind turning that off? know, it's like sir, please don't pay attention to the four cameras behind me. i was the first ever happened. quite possibly was the hideous thing i've ever seen in my...

Understand them? >> i think that he has intellectually understood them. the question is now whether he can implement them. and i think when -- you know, when i met with mayor pete when he went to the sylvia soul food restaurant with me, he seemed comfortable in his own skin, unflappable someone said. he seemed on the phone for first time to be unsure where to go. not unsure of himself, but unsure where to go. i think his challenge now is to put out what he has in policy into practice. he needs to deal with that officer who had the camera off or whoever turned it off, how ever it became turned ...

Many cases violated by some bad officers, not good ones but bad ones, and nothing happens. there's no accountability. so he has the opportunity to prove himself here, or he has the opportunity to continue to do what is seen around the country as trying to get past the crisis. the issue is not buttigieg's presidential run, the issue is an unarmed man was killed by police, and the policeman had the body camera off, and we don't know what happened, both those in south bend and those around the nation. >> what happened, what's the solution to the system and the systemic problems? rev, you have bee...

>> it shows an ability to go out and be transparent, be available to the community, but then if you are going to make a statement, then you got to back it up. if black lives do matter as he said, because in the past he had the controversy when he said all lives matter and he corrected that when he came to the convention this year and said yes, black lives matter, then show it. you're the mayor. you're not just making speeches. show they matter by saying i will not tolerate this, this man should not have had the camera off. what is the reasoning behind this, and we're going to make a genuine, a...

>> he left the campaign trail. you were telling me he's got an officer shooting that impacted a person of color. he's been talking to you. what have you talked about. >> he called me today and calling others that worked in in area and asked, what we felt. i told him you've got to be very honest. you've got to be transparent. this family wants justice. i talked to the widow, her pastor has been in touch with some of our national action network people. the police camera off. that's a big problem. whied you. >> that seems to happen quite a bit in these shootings. >> the whole purpose of having ca...