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Misinformation are covered? >> i think this is a difficult situation. because, i think, the audience assumes that, if there was absolutely no merit to what he was saying, then the media wouldn't be covering it. and so, even with media outlets covering him and trying to explain how out of line his views are, and how unmoored in data or reality or facts they are, the fact that they are paying attention to him gives him an imprimatur that i think is hard to overcome. and this is something that all kinds of media outlets have experienced with other people, for example, donald trump. if it's hard t...

A character. we are sitting there and a foul ball comes screaming in, and it bounces into this kid. and the father sitting next to the kid protects himself, not the kid. now this is -- remember they have a camera on him, so they jump up and start berating the father for not protecting the kid. it's like man, what about the kid. >> greg: from an evolutionary standpoint, the father was protecting himself knowing that he would be important later in life for the child. >> juan: [laughs] >> greg: i will let you get hit by the ball, because later i have to pay for your college education in the speec...

And in that journey, i've gotten very close to the jewish people. now there's another aspect to it, and that is my father. my father was a very poor boy. he was eight years old when he caddied at this country club, and he was a very cute kid. white blond hair, they used to call him whitey. he would tell the story on himself. a charming man, my dad. and great sense of humor, and he'd tell us the story. he said how he would caddie at eight years old, making more money than his dad was taking care of his family and three siblings, and at the 16th hole he would say, you know, he had this wonderful...

And in that journey, i've gotten very close to the jewish people. now there's another aspect to it, and that is my father. my father was a very poor boy. he was eight years old when he caddied at this country club, and he was a very cute kid. white blond hair, they used to call him whitey. he would tell the story on himself. a charming man, my dad. and great sense of humor, and he'd tell us the story. he said how he would caddie at eight years old, making more money than his dad was taking care of his family and three siblings, and at the 16th hole he would say, you know, he had this wonderful...

Because he immediately while having a camera on him, himself, and while we are on air, live, that the bullets started firing and, again, it was very difficult to say what is that? it was just very, very fast. >> you know, i've read studies of shooting situations where oftentimes people don't know at first, i mean, they hear a shot, even if it's close, but they don't understand what it is. because the scene, the situation that you're in. did you, when the shot started to ring out, did you know instantly what was going on? >> yes and no. obviously it was something. it was, again, very fast. when...