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Getting mexico to pay for it but it was a great campaign device. now i'm curious we hear trump making promises to repeal obamacare and now he is saying parts he likes, extreme vetting for people coming to the united states from terror sites, bringing back water boarding. do you think those things are real and going to happen, or do you think they were campaign devices and not things that a president trump will push through? >> probably several of them, and the wall may be a good example, are advocacy of a general direction. if you get down to the details of who pays for it, you may end up not ...

Couple years, that's not going to work. what we've seen over this campaign is someone who wants to be loved. the fact that he can tweet about the protests going on, it's getting under his skin, that people aren't rejoicing for him. imagine inauguration day. and by the way, trust me, believe me, i'll be able to get back to you soon. >> so newt gingrich is on the list of possible secretary of state. and he said this yesterday about a foreign policy issue, the building of the wall on the mexican border. he said about donald trump, he'll spend a lot of time controlling the border, he may not spend...

Border wall during a conference call this week. here's what he said. and this is in "the washington post." he said, he'll spend a lot of time controlling the border. he may not spend very much time trying to get mexico to pay for it, but it was a great campaign device. a great campaign device. that cannot resonate well with donald trump's base. >> well, christi, there's been a lot of talk in the last couple of days about this idea, it was first put out there by celine azito, who is our colleague and also writes for a variety of outlets, you know, very widely regarded columnist, and this idea t...