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Across our country over what's happened with terrorism. and people crossing our border. and our broken visa system that half the people came in legally and overstayed that we need to fix. that's what i mean about the metaphor is a small wall for big problem, border security and individual security. >> the president also has said before the inauguration and since the inauguration that mexicoological pay for the wall. do you believe that? >> no, i don't think mexico will pay for the wall. i think he was maybe speaking in a campaign hyperbole. but i don't think mexico will pay for the wall. >> he...

He's are things he's said. he has not said i will be a normal politician. he has not said disregard everything i've said, it's just campaign hyperbole. so why are we sort of insisting that we should keep an open mind and treat him like a normal politician when so far he's given us no reason to suggest that he's a normal politician and every reason to think that he ran for autocrat. >> what do you make of the inclination by all sorts of different people, including journalists, liberals, conservatives who still didn't like him, i think there's an inclination to believe that it is hyperbole, to d...

He's talked about deporting u.s. citizens, he's talked about compelling the military to commit war crimes. he's are things he's said. he has not said i will be a normal politician. he has not said disregard everything i've said, it's just campaign hyperbole. so why are we sort of insisting that we should keep an open mind and treat him like a normal politician when so far he's given us no reason to suggest that he's a normal politician and every reason to think that he ran for autocrat. >> what do you make of the inclination by all sorts of different people, including journalists, liberals, co...