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She's proved us right at the first debate, she's proves us right again here with this ad. she's running a great campaign. that's from a super p.a.c. not directly from her campaign but that's how you turn a moment like that. without making a cheap attack back at donald trump turn it into something like that ad you see right there. mark halperin where is carly fiorina in this race right now? she got that little boost coming out of cleveland. where does she fit in here? >> she's gotten a little boost and the super p.a.c. on the campaign side needs to step up. baepting trump now means winning a st...

Negative ads. the reality is he's not doing well in the sense he's not performing that way. he is clearly making mistakes to some extent are setting him back. he's not organizing in iowa as intensely as he might. as long as he's at the top of the polls and as long as republicans fail to identify why it is he's doing well rather than just railing at him, he's going to be a huge factor in this race. >> joe? >> kacie hunt tell me who else on the campaign side gets the crowds and intensity that donald trump does. >> you know joe, i have to tell you, trump talks a lot about the crowds and when we w...

Knows about the ethics rules. there's supposed to be ethics training. not everybody may have been in compliance. we know that there was sloppy paperwork in how he reported things on the campaign side. and i guess people who are listening know there's allegations concerning how he misused taxpayer money and campaign money. far more serious is any allegation dealing with taxpayer money because that has to do with conversion of taxpayer money to public use. i think a lot of the campaign laws, as ken knows and has done so much reporting on they're a little looser. but if federal prosecutors want t...

Hillary clinton and barack obama where terry mcauliffe and his campaign side. >> you know, monica, if you want to gift benefit of tgive the be doubt, you can say the president didn't appreciate the magnitude that the insurance companies would be so mean and evil. f even though you're forcing them to cover the sky and the hef heavens. so at the very least, the ignorance would get him. >> so you basically have two choices. he's either grossly incompetent tent and didn't know what was going on or couldn't project what would happen. but we were all -- those of us who opposed obama care have been o...

Happens. >> our andrea mitchell saying they will talk about middle east peace and developments we were watching at the state department. you got the issue of syria and egypt. might be that be some of the topics on hand based on her long experience? >> i think that might be more likely than them moving the pieces around for 2016 because, as you said, of her prior experience. but on the campaign side, you have seen several obama campaign staffers move over to the ready for hillary effort which is kind of a premade campaign should she decide to run. there is a reason for us to speculate. most lik...