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Three million vote deficit could have made up there alone. it doesn't take us very long as a party to get to the point where we realize we have to look at what happened in 2000 and 2004 and replicate it. >> if there's a battle for the heart and soul of the gop, who do you hope wins that battle in. >> well, i do disagree with that. i think that what our party stands for in these conservative principles, smaller tacxes and traditional values, i don't think we -- >> really, you think the message is fine? >> no, that's a different statement. i don't think our brand is fine. i think how we explain ...

Has favorability ratings that are net minus 12. howard dean, boy, you just don't usually find a presidential candidate in that position. you know, whenever people would ask me, well, why can't sarah palin be president a year and a half ago, two years ago? i would say just look at the net favorability ratings. that they usually don't turn around. same with newt. the net unfavorability ratings were so bad, that rarely turns around. >> there's another problem with these numbers. not these particular numbers. the net unfavorability numbers are very bad. but this was a poll we showed on this show a...

Fall. >> here's mitt romney's problem. if i said, hey, would you like to have a beer with newt gingrich? not a problem. do you want to have a beer with mitt romney? and that's the problem. >> he doesn't drink. >> well, coffee or gatorade. >> i understand that in terms of a marketing and -- and i think that's a legitimate issue. having said that, right now, do you think people really are worrying about whether they like him? >> well, it's just you don't connect. it's not oh, i like him. it's just i just -- and chris matthews says it best, you invite this guy into all the rooms of your home a fe...

There's like one guy in the old folks home. he has big ears and he's very funny. but there's a lot of women there. men say with any luck, i won't need social security. but joan, on the issue of these issues like contraception and birth control and abortion rights, they do ring -- here's my suggestion. it's about the question, does this candidate care about people like me? the fundamental political question. >> right. but men are asking this question too because i think the thing that rush limbaugh did is make a lot of us remember that we also have daughters. this just reached such a horrible l...

damascus. >> where can syrians go? they've been calling out to the world for help. >> we want to see actions, we don't want to see talk. we're really tired of talk and talk and talk. we've seen no actions at all. the syrian president still has his legitimacy. until now no country said this president lost his legitimacy. until now. why did they not say that? why does he still have his legitimacy after all the killing he did? >> and that activist is talking about this weekend's lack of action from the united nations. the security council rejected a resolution to call for president baja...