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Into 2024. a lot of these, you know, issues that we've come to handle now are caused by democrats reckless spending, unified democrat control which led to reckless inflation and people feeling that they have less economic outlook going forward. mike: on democratic candidate preference, lucas made 37% keep biden, 53% someone else. how troubling is that for the white house, jonathan? >> not troubling at all. those 53% are i guess the democrats who don't like winning. i'm the democratic wing that likes to win elections so i can't wait to joe biden to announce he's running again. i can't wait for ...

Near phoenix. let's go to jeff zeleny. he's in des moines at one of those so-called satellite cau s caucuses. are you getting some results, jeff? >> reporter: we are, wolf. what we're seeing now is a realignment in realtime. there were two candidate preference groups, the warren campaign and the sanders campaign who were viable here. those were the only two candidates who were viable. so now there are other supporters who are moving around and seeing where they are going to go. we should point out, wolf, this is a snapshot in time. this is one location, this is one satellite caucus. not indica...

>> i totally agree with that. there was infrastructure. it is a nuance that is probably lost on the crowd. we should probably apply the same standard to ourselves looking at what she said. she said the infrastructure didn't make any kind of attempt to compromise the infrastructure didn't appear to have a candidate preference. >> she did talk about the information campaign in which there were people trying to discourt pro and antitrump hillary. we do see this situation going on where people in the trump administration don't want to run a foul on the boss. >> here is my issue. i have a sneaking ...

Has all kinds of different data information on these specific individuals. their vote history, likely candidate preference. all kinds of things that you can look at. what you get then from the county auditor or from the secretary of state are individual level returns. so you know exactly who voted early, and many times you know how they voted early, either in person or by mail. then you can imagine that back to your existing database or voter file. >> and you know enough about those people you sort of profiled the them whether it's through their age, their education level, their ethnicity to b...

We get to the early voting data. it's important for folks to understand when you were sitting at your perch in the 2012 campaign and folks were running the operation in clinton's campaign, you're not looking at the real clear politics or 548, you have internal data. what is that made of and what does it say and tell you that we on the inside don't know? >> you have a voter file that has all kinds of different data information on these specific individuals. their vote history, likely candidate preference. all kinds of things that you can look at. what you get then from the county auditor or fro...