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Five years after barack obama warned that anxious voters are just clinging to their guns and religion, wedge issues are cutting differently. more to the liking of democrats." wow. i've got our "hardball" strategists here tonight to argue this. former rnc chair, michael steele, an msnbc political analyst. steve elmendorf, a strategist who worked for dick gephardt, john kerry and hillary clinton. none of them actually won in the end. i'm just kidding. you're a very well respected consultant here and leader. let me ask you this. how do you think these issues, democrats are going to use these issu...

Superpacs, there is nobody to report to, they can go get as mean as they want to and i think will, because -- it's a lot easier just as somebody as an operative, it's a lot easier to go neglect teufpb i negative than it is to go positive if you're disengaged from the campaign, if there is no boss to report to. you don't have the candidate saying, don't do that. you'll see on both sides i think these independent expenditures and superpacs will add tremendously to the negativity. rick: let me ask you, bill clinton it was announced this week that he's going to play a pretty major role at the conv...

>> that affects the senior citizens locally. >> steve seems to be a lot more bullish on actual house chances. than the actual house democrats do. >> would you run for office as a congressman or a member of congress -- >> no. >> would you support a candidate saying, i'm with rick perry, let's get rid of social security? >> well, look -- >> it's a ponzi scheme, would you do that? would you say, let's get rid of medicare and replace it with some sort of, you know, starbucks $10 card to buy health insurance, a voucher? >> i don't think that's anyone's plan. >> what's your response ad going to say ...

Medicare. >> that affects the senior citizens locally. >> steve seems to be a lot more bullish on actual house chances. >> would you run for office as a congressman or a member of congress -- >> no. >> would you support a candidate saying, i'm with rick perry, let's get rid of social security? >> well, look -- >> it's a ponzi scheme, would you do that? would you say, let's get rid of medicaid and replace it with some sort of, you know, starbucks $10 card to buy health insurance, a voucher? >> i don't think that's anyone's plan. >> what's your response ad going to say when they say rick perry w...

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